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Issues #6617

tIieN1 - can a popup warning be considered as 'not allowed'

Added by Richard Schimmel about 1 year ago. Updated 14 days ago.

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
Camille Bloch
Due date:
12/10/2024 (42 days late)
Discuss in Upcoming Meeting:
No
Clause Reference:
61850 Standard:
6
Triggering Tissue:
Final Decision:
Initial Test Document:
Ed2.1 ICT
Updated Test Document:
Test Case ID:
Closed Reason:
--Not Set---
Triggering Tissue 2:
Triggering Tissue 3:

Description

I see ICT tools that also provide some SCT features. Such tools may have a setting to allow or block SCT features. For example when SCT features are blocked the data model can't change and tIieN1 will pass. When the setting allows SCT features the tIieN1 will fail. So the test result depends on a setting. Which is very common for server testing and allowed.
Now what if an ICT tool does not have such setting but instead pop-ups with a warning and ask the engineer something like "dataobject/LN is allocated to a client. are you sure to remove?". Is this acceptable to pass the test?

Files

Proposal to accommodate dual role ICT SCT tools.docx Proposal to accommodate dual role ICT SCT tools.docx 63.9 KB Zach Wormgoor, 08/29/2024 04:01 PM
Proposal to accommodate dual role ICT SCT tools - specific wording.docx Proposal to accommodate dual role ICT SCT tools - specific wording.docx 63.6 KB Zach Wormgoor, 01/06/2025 07:35 PM
#1

Updated by IEC 61850 TPWG about 1 year ago

  • Due date set to 01/09/2024
  • Status changed from New to Resolved

Many tools on the market provide some mix of ICT and SCT function. UCA needs to address these products.

Richard to review and propose resolution.

#2

Updated by IEC 61850 TPWG 6 months ago

  • Due date changed from 01/09/2024 to 09/03/2024
  • Status changed from Resolved to In Progress
  • Assignee set to Richard Schimmel

Any implementation that prevents changing of data model in the output SCL is acceptable.

#3

Updated by Zach Wormgoor 5 months ago

Attached is a detailed proposal to allow flexibility for ICTs, with the intent of better user experience and better engineering workflow.

#4

Updated by IEC 61850 TPWG 5 months ago

  • Due date changed from 09/03/2024 to 09/17/2024

Generally accept proposal, but further discussion of SED/Exchange between 2 SCTs needs further discussion.

#5

Updated by IEC 61850 TPWG 4 months ago

  • Due date changed from 09/17/2024 to 10/29/2024
#6

Updated by IEC 61850 TPWG 3 months ago

  • Due date changed from 10/29/2024 to 11/12/2024
  • Assignee changed from Richard Schimmel to Camille Bloch

This needs to be reviewed in context of engineering process. Thierry and Camille to discuss.

#7

Updated by IEC 61850 TPWG 2 months ago

  • Due date changed from 11/12/2024 to 12/10/2024
#8

Updated by Zach Wormgoor 15 days ago

Attached is a revised proposal with more specific wording, based on collaboration with Camille and Richard.

#9

Updated by IEC 61850 TPWG 14 days ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to Resolved

Tissue will be raised against part 6 Ed2.2

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