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Feature #6216

Parameters not available in standardized LN - SetPhNum

Added by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 2 years ago. Updated almost 2 years ago.

Status:
In Progress
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
-
Category:
Standard extension required
Start date:
11/24/2020
Due date:
05/24/2021 (over 3 years late)
% Done:

0%

Estimated time:
ID:
51
Source:
RTE
TF Unique ID:
51 # RTE
WG10 Proposal:

SetPhNum/SetPhsOrig: Information should be taken from the source

Estimated Completion:
Discuss in Upcoming Meeting:
No
To discuss in WG10:
No
Short Proposal:

We need a clearer use case for SetPhNum proposal, to understand the dynamic change of the setting

Standard(s):

IEC 61850-7-4

Needs More Information:
Yes
Assigned TF:

Description

SetPhNum: Phase (ph0, ph3, ph4, ph7, ph8, ph11, neutral) to be used. Should be used in each specific LN related to voltage (RREC, PIOC, PTOC, PTOV, PIOV, FXOT, FXUT,…)

[New parametres need to be modelled since they are not available in standard LNs. This issue refer to SetPhNum parameter, as explained in the attached documents by RTE.]


Files

20210326-RTE Use cases 622.docx 20210326-RTE Use cases 622.docx 20.2 KB Use case explanation Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo, 05/25/2021 10:14 AM
20210326-RTE Use cases 622_v2.docx 20210326-RTE Use cases 622_v2.docx 24 KB more details on use cases Maud Merley, 12/04/2022 11:56 PM

Proposal descriptions

Last WG10 comment: SetPhNum/SetPhsOrig: Information should be taken from the source, using the connection between the source and the target P-Logical Nodes


Related issues

Copied from IEC 61850 User Feedback Task Force - Feature #622: Parameters not available in standardized LNClosed11/24/202005/24/2021

Actions
Copied to IEC 61850 User Feedback Task Force - Feature #6217: Parameters not available in standardized LN - NamAccRtgIn Progress11/24/202005/24/2021

Actions
Copied to IEC 61850 User Feedback Task Force - Feature #6225: Parameters not available in standardized LN - SetPhsOrigIn Progress11/24/202005/24/2021

Actions
#1

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 2 years ago

  • Copied from Feature #622: Parameters not available in standardized LN added
#2

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 2 years ago

  • Copied to Feature #6217: Parameters not available in standardized LN - NamAccRtg added
#3

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 2 years ago

WG10 comment:
SetPhNum/SetPhsOrig: Information should be taken from the source, using the connection between the source and the target P-Logical Nodes.
RTE comment:
Use case of current overload protection: the current overload protection verifies if the phase current exceeds a threshold. In some application, the phase that has to be monitored can change
depending on the network topology and constrains. In this case, the function has to subscribed to all phase’s currents in the SV streams, and the phase to be used needs to be indicated by a
setting. This is dynamic and cannot be done by configuration. It can be done using SetPhNum or SetPhsOrig. It would be complicated to implement this as an external function outside the
protection. Similar use cases can apply to several protection functions (under / overvoltage protections, …).

#4

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 2 years ago

  • ID changed from 19 to 51
  • TF Unique ID changed from 19 # RTE to 51 # RTE
#5

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 2 years ago

  • Copied to Feature #6225: Parameters not available in standardized LN - SetPhsOrig added
#6

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 2 years ago

  • Subject changed from Parameters not available in standardized LN - SetPhNum and SetPhsOrig to Parameters not available in standardized LN - SetPhNum
  • Description updated (diff)
#7

Updated by Vladan Cvejic almost 2 years ago

  • Status changed from New to In Progress
#8

Updated by Vladan Cvejic almost 2 years ago

It is concluded that issue has to be presented and discussed on next joint meeting of TC57 & TC38 & TC95 in Lyon (May 25th, 2023). Will be presented by Maud Merley.

#9

Updated by Vladan Cvejic almost 2 years ago

  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from Yes to No

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