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Improvement #629

TCTR and TVTR new DO to identify physical terminal allocation in the IED

Added by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 4 years ago. Updated 11 months ago.

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
-
Category:
Standard extension required
Start date:
12/17/2020
Due date:
08/16/2021 (over 3 years late)
% Done:

0%

Estimated time:
ID:
35
Source:
RTE
TF Unique ID:
35 # RTE
WG10 Proposal:
Estimated Completion:
Discuss in Upcoming Meeting:
No
To discuss in WG10:
No
Short Proposal:

Describe analog I/O similar to LDPI/LDPO for digital I/O.

Standard(s):

IEC TR 61850-90-29

Needs More Information:
No
Assigned TF:
61850-90-29 - Physical resource management

Description

Need to have a new DO to identify the physical terminal allocation of a TVTR and TCTR.
We want to have a DO that allows to identify that a LN TVTR and a LN TCTR. This new DO will describe the physical VT / CT interface, as done in LPDI / LPDO for digital I/O.
Helpful for maintenance and exploitation of the system.


Proposal descriptions

Routed to task force 90-29 "Physical I/O description". Will be discussed after circulation of the TR 90-29.

#1

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 4 years ago

  • Description updated (diff)
#2

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 4 years ago

  • Status changed from New to In Progress
  • Short Proposal set to Describe analog I/O similar to LDPI/LDPO for digital I/O. Check with task force "Physical I/O description"
  • Standard(s) deleted (IEC 61850-7-4)

Meeting 2020-12-17:
The idea is to describe in the model the analog I/O similar to the LDPI/LPDO for digital I/O. To check with the task force in charge of the physical I/O description data model. It seems the analog I/O modelled in this task force is only related to mA inputs for temperature and this kind of things.
A dedicated logical node or a new DO inside TVTR and TCTR.
UF to check with the task force in charge of physiscal I/O description.

#3

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 4 years ago

  • Due date set to 08/16/2021
  • Status changed from In Progress to Triage
  • Short Proposal changed from Describe analog I/O similar to LDPI/LDPO for digital I/O. Check with task force "Physical I/O description" to Describe analog I/O similar to LDPI/LDPO for digital I/O.
  • Proposal descriptions updated (diff)
  • To discuss in WG10 set to No
#4

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 4 years ago

  • Proposal descriptions updated (diff)

2021-03-02: RTE to provide a more detailed use case.

#5

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 4 years ago

  • Proposal descriptions updated (diff)

2021-03-02: DPL.location could be used for identifying the bay level, but not for physical connection

#6

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo over 2 years ago

Clarification needed: "is it enough to put inside substation section instead of a DO (through data model)?"
TF group does not think that every SCL feature should be mapped into a DO, online model.

#7

Updated by Maud Merley over 2 years ago

Precision about the use case : to be able to indicate the link between the IED and the physical terminal of Instrument Transformer or bay terminal block. The use of boundary LN, in a similar approach than digital inputs / outputs with LPDI / LPDO, could be a solution. This issue was sent to Physical Ressources TF (Dehui Chen) on 2021-03-10, proposal to discuss these new issues after circulation of the TR 90-29.

#8

Updated by Vladan Cvejic over 2 years ago

  • Subject changed from TCTR and TVTR new DO to identify common bay level to TCTR and TVTR new DO to identify physical terminal allocation in the IED
  • Description updated (diff)
  • Status changed from Triage to Resolved
  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from Yes to No
  • Proposal descriptions updated (diff)
  • Standard(s) set to IEC TR 61850-90-29
#9

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo over 1 year ago

  • Needs More Information set to No
#10

Updated by Vladan Cvejic about 1 year ago

  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from No to Yes
#11

Updated by Michael Haecker about 1 year ago

The physical terminal allocation of a TVTR and TCTR is considered in 90-29. The model can be seen in the CD with is in circulation.

#12

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo 11 months ago

  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from Yes to No
  • Assigned TF 61850-90-29 - Physical resource management added

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