Support #676
Clarification of addCause
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IEC 61850-7-5
Description
1. The standard identifies addCause, but its use should be explicitly defined by requirements associated to the application. The use and the expected behavior may be different for CB or disconnectors and also depend on other criteria.
example: "invalidPosition": depending on the object, a rejection of the command may be wished for a disconnector, but not for an opening command of a CB.
2. Besides, some cases has to be clarified:
25 "none" : why is this addCause necessary, normally they are associated at a refusal. Clarify use?
23 "abortion by communication loss": this addCause cannot be sent in case of loss of communication. Clarify use. Log?
26 "inconsistent parameter" conform if used for test of parameters of command or for sequence number of command (cybersecurity)
20 "non access authority" -> which are the associated controls?
=> Associated controls need to be explicitly specified for each addCause for interoperability reasons. Specially important for 20 and 26.
3. At least, how to access to addCause for other functions than the client and server concerned. Proposal : creation of attribute ENUM associated to addCause ?
Proposal descriptions
1. The standard identifies addCause, but its use should be explicitly defined by requirements associated to the application. The use and the expected behavior may be different for CB or disconnectors and also depend on other criteria.
example: "invalidPosition": depending on the object, a rejection of the command may be wished for a disconnector, but not for an opening command of a CB.
2. Besides, some cases has to be clarified:
25 "none" : why is this addCause necessary, normally they are associated at a refusal. Clarify use?
23 "abortion by communication loss": this addCause cannot be sent in case of loss of communication. Clarify use. Log?
26 "inconsistent parameter" conform if used for test of parameters of command or for sequence number of command (cybersecurity)
20 "non access authority" -> which are the associated controls?
=> Associated controls need to be explicitly specified for each addCause for interoperability reasons. Specially important for 20 and 26.
Which addCause to use for cb blocked due to low SF6 pressure?
Is it expected to use addCause "Blocked by Process" (9) or "Blocked-by-Command" (24)?
The semantic of 24 implies a user operation, but is attached to CmdBlk. In the description of the use of CmdBlk, one can understand that the command could also be blocked by a signal (not necessarily user). It would be advantageous to clarify this point.
Proposal:
- use of addCause 24 only for blocking by operator and cause 9 for blocking related to signals form process.
- indicate that CmdBlk could also be associated to add cause 9
3. At least, how to access to addCause for other functions than the client and server concerned. Proposal : creation of attribute ENUM associated to addCause ?
Related issues
Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo over 3 years ago
- Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from No to Yes
Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 3 years ago
- Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from Yes to No
- Issue #1: In the PIXIT there is an explanation of addCause but in IED view, not for every controllable data object. "invalidPosition" indicates that the position has not been reached, but the command has been executed. Herb will talk with Richard Schimmel about 2.1 conformance test.
- Issue #2:
- addCause 23: To be used in LTRK, that can be logged or reported.
- addCause 26: Different parameter between Selection and Execution
- hich addCause to use for cb blocked due to low SF6 pressure? --> addCause 9
- Issue #3: It is exposed by LTRK
7-2 Ed2.1 has increased explanation on AddCause. Table 21. RTE to take look on that.
Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 3 years ago
- Due date set to 11/21/2021
- Category set to Standard clarification required
- Status changed from New to In Progress
Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 3 years ago
- ID set to 49
- TF Unique ID set to 49 # RTE
TF Unique ID set
Updated by Vladan Cvejic over 2 years ago
- Status changed from In Progress to Resolved
- Standard(s) set to IEC 61850-7-5
Proposal:
Issue to be addressed by 7-5 TF.
Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo over 1 year ago
- Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from No to Yes
Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo over 1 year ago
- Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from Yes to No
Updated by Vladan Cvejic over 1 year ago
- Copied to IEC61850-7-5 #6408: Clarification of addCause added