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In Ed 2 test sCtl5 step 2, expected result when LN.Beh=on and control command sent to Mod where test flag set says commands are accepted and executed

Added by Karen Wyszczelski about 3 years ago. Updated almost 3 years ago.

Status:
Closed
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
-
Due date:
Discuss in Upcoming Meeting:
No
Clause Reference:
61850-7-4 Ed2.0 Annex A Sentence 3
61850 Standard:
7-4
Final Decision:
No change needed in sCtl5
Initial Test Document:
Updated Test Document:
Test Case ID:
sCtl5
Closed Reason:
No Action Taken
Triggering Tissue 3:

Description

The test case is sending a control command to Mod, when Beh=ON with the test=true flag set. Part 7-4 Annex A says that the data object Mod does not care about the status of Beh of the LN, i.e. Mod will always accept commands with Test=false. However, it does not specifically say that if Beh=ON it should accept commands to Mod when the control Test=true.

Table A.1 says that Control commands with Test=true shall be rejected when Mod/Beh = ON. Mod is a special case, as described in Tissue 1331, however that tissue does not spell out the control of Mod when the Beh = ON and the control command has Test=true.

The test case is not testing a requirement called out in the standard, but is testing an interpretation and should be removed until the Control Commands on Mod are specified.

#1

Updated by Herbert Falk about 3 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Resolved
#2

Updated by Herbert Falk about 3 years ago

  • Status changed from Resolved to In Progress
#3

Updated by Herbert Falk about 3 years ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to New
#4

Updated by Herbert Falk about 3 years ago

  • Project changed from Test Procedure Issues to Server
  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting set to No
  • 61850 Edition Edition 2 Amd 1 added
  • Closed Reason --Not Set--- added
#5

Updated by Bruce Muschlitz about 3 years ago

  • Status changed from New to In Progress
  • Clause Reference set to 61850-7-4 Ed2.0 Annex A Sentence 3
  • Triggering Tissue set to https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331

Maybe the “i.e.” should be “e.g.”? I’ve seen other issues similar to this due to non-English-speaking editors.
But I think the text above Table A.1 before the i.e. is clear:
The communication services for the data object Mod do not care about the status of the Beh of the LN
And every possible set of states does not need to be in the text.
https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331 has been in-force since 2015.

But you are correct that the statement: i.e. Mod will always accept commands with Test=false is confusing

#6

Updated by Richard Schimmel about 3 years ago

  • Test Case ID set to sCtl5
  • 61850 Standard 7-2 added

See also tissue #1769 for Ed2Amd1

#7

Updated by Richard Schimmel about 3 years ago

TPWG: the intend is to update the standard to clarify the behavior specified in the test procedures. (the test procedures does not change)

#8

Updated by Bruce Muschlitz about 3 years ago

This is also related to https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769 which is under discussion

#9

Updated by Thierry Dufaure about 3 years ago

  • 61850 Standard 7-4 added
  • 61850 Standard deleted (7-2)

I changed to 7-4.
The new tissue https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769 is verify draft implementation state now.

#10

Updated by Richard Schimmel almost 3 years ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to Closed
  • Final Decision set to No change needed in sCtl5
  • Closed Reason No Action Taken added
  • Closed Reason deleted (--Not Set---)

TPWG agrees to close - no action required sCtl5 will not change

#11

Updated by Herbert Falk almost 3 years ago

  • Triggering Tissue changed from https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331 to https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331;https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769.
#12

Updated by Herbert Falk almost 3 years ago

  • Triggering Tissue changed from https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331;https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769. to https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769.
#13

Updated by Herbert Falk almost 3 years ago

  • Triggering Tissue changed from https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769. to <https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331> <https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769.>
#14

Updated by Herbert Falk almost 3 years ago

  • Triggering Tissue changed from <https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331> <https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769.> to https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1331

#15

Updated by Bruce Muschlitz almost 3 years ago

  • Triggering Tissue 2 set to https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1769

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