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Support #632

APPID 0x4000 - Sampled Values

Added by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 3 years ago. Updated 5 months ago.

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
High
Assignee:
-
Category:
Standard clarification required
Start date:
12/16/2020
Due date:
06/16/2021 (over 2 years late)
% Done:

0%

Estimated time:
ID:
8
Source:
H30
TF Unique ID:
8 # H30
WG10 Proposal:
Estimated Completion:
Discuss in Upcoming Meeting:
No
To discuss in WG10:
No
Short Proposal:
Standard(s):

IEC 61850-9-2, IEC 61869-9

Needs More Information:
No
Assigned TF:

Description

IEC 61850-9-2 LE defines 0x4000 as the APPID to be used for SV sources.
IEC 61850-9-2 Ed2 and IEC 61869-9 indicates APPID 0x4000 means "lack of configuration" and encourage to assign unique APPID for each SV source in the system. Does "lack of configuration" mean than APPID 0x4000 is not valid any more? That could provoke an interOp problem with 9-2LE sources.
Opposite semantical definitions.

Tissue #1743 partially capture the issue as we think it does not state if tools and implementations will accept SV sources with APPID 0x4000.

Files

t1743.PNG View t1743.PNG 94 KB Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo, 02/16/2021 02:32 AM

Related issues

Related to IEC 61850 User Feedback Task Force - Support #541: APPID rules for backward compatible variants (9-2LE) shall be noted in IEC 61869-9Closed

Actions
#1

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 3 years ago

  • Related to Support #541: APPID rules for backward compatible variants (9-2LE) shall be noted in IEC 61869-9 added
#2

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 3 years ago

  • Status changed from New to In Progress
  • To discuss in WG10 set to Yes

Since 9-2 edition 1, 0x4000 means "lack of configuration". We have to clarify how to work with 9-2LE and 9-2 SV sources and what is expected from SCT/ICT.

#3

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 3 years ago

  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from Yes to No
#4

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 3 years ago

  • Due date set to 06/16/2021
#5

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo almost 3 years ago

  • To discuss in WG10 changed from Yes to No

2021-06-16 (WG10 plennary): 9-2 Editors should take a deeper look into the tissue.

#6

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 5 months ago

  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from No to Yes
  • Needs More Information set to Yes
#7

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 5 months ago

  • Needs More Information changed from Yes to No

Task:
To write a Tissue for 8-1 and to make editorial change (to remove 'lack of...').

#8

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 5 months ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to Resolved
  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from Yes to No

Joel will enter the tissue for 8-1 (editorial change).
For 9-2 there is Tissue 1743.

#9

Updated by Joel Greene 5 months ago

Vladan Cvejic wrote in #note-8:

Joel will enter the tissue for 8-1 (editorial change).
For 9-2 there is Tissue 1743.

8-1 (2.1) indicates that the default APPID for GOOSE is 0x0000, but says nothing about the APPID values for SV Therefore, I have not entered a TISSUE on 8-1.

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