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WG10 Future Work #5965

Schedules - allow updates to single values while schedules are running

Added by Vladan Cvejic about 2 years ago. Updated 10 months ago.

Status:
New
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
-
Start date:
03/02/2022
Due date:
09/02/2022 (over 2 years late)
% Done:

0%

Estimated time:
Source:
TF Unique ID:
WG10 Proposal:
Discuss in Upcoming Meeting:
No
Short Proposal:
Standard(s):

IEC 61850-7-4

Needs More Information:
No
Assigned TF:
61850-7-4
Target edition:
Next

Description

Context: how to use IEC 61850 for DER and microgrids (IEC 61850-90-23 CD1).

IEC 61850-7-4 prescribes that schedules may only be updated whilst they are offline. This is a conservative approach that allows for validation of all the settings to ensure consistency before re-starting i.e. evaluating the schedule output.
There are two approaches:
1. Stop the running schedule; change it, restart
2. Write to another schedule with a higher priority and start that; stop the original schedule; change it, restart it; stop the second schedule.

This approach is unnecessarily complex for some cases. A common use case is to update a schedule for one or more periods in the future. In these cases, updating individual schedule values will not affect the current schedule output, so there is no need to require the schedule to be deactivated and reactivated.

See also #3098


Related issues

Copied from IEC 61850 User Feedback Task Force - Improvement #5323: Schedules - allow updates to single values while schedules are runningResolved03/02/202209/02/2022

Actions
#1

Updated by Vladan Cvejic about 2 years ago

  • Copied from Improvement #5323: Schedules - allow updates to single values while schedules are running added
#2

Updated by Carlos Rodriguez del Castillo about 2 years ago

  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting changed from Yes to No
#3

Updated by Tom Berry about 2 years ago

Discussed in WG10 Meeting September 2022

The key issue is to clarify the consistency checks made when updating a FSCH.
The FSCH state machine is used to ensure that a schedule is consistent before it is enabled, but part 7-4 Annex K does not provide details of the checks that must / should be performed.

Tom Berry to write a proposal to describe expected checks for each data object.
For example, changing the number of points needs a full consistency check, changing a single ASG value does not.

#4

Updated by Vladan Cvejic over 1 year ago

  • Tracker changed from WG10FutureWork to WG10 Future Work
  • Source deleted (WG17)
  • TF Unique ID deleted (3 # WG17)
  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting deleted (No)
  • Proposal descriptions updated (diff)
  • Standard(s) deleted (IEC 61850-7-4,7-5)
#5

Updated by Vladan Cvejic over 1 year ago

  • Discuss in Upcoming Meeting set to No
  • Needs More Information set to No
#6

Updated by Vladan Cvejic about 1 year ago

  • Target edition set to Not assigned
#7

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 10 months ago

  • Target edition changed from Not assigned to Next
  • Assigned TF 61850-7-4 added
#8

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 10 months ago

  • Standard(s) set to IEC 61850-7-4

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