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WG10 Future Work #5934

Simultaneous change of InRef.setSrcRef and InRef.setSrcCB for dynamic commutation

Added by Vladan Cvejic almost 2 years ago. Updated 5 months ago.

Status:
New
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
-
Start date:
05/31/2022
Due date:
% Done:

0%

Estimated time:
Source:
RTE
TF Unique ID:
WG10 Proposal:
Discuss in Upcoming Meeting:
No
Short Proposal:
Standard(s):

TR IEC 61850-10-3, TR IEC 61850-90-20

Needs More Information:
No
Assigned TF:
61850-10-3 (Functional Testing), 61850-90-20
Target edition:
Next

Description

A simple static communication description in SCD based on “Input/ExtRef” combined with later binding is not always sufficient for all applications. Indeed, one of the most important use cases is redundancy management. For example, it may be necessary for a protection function to switch the subscription between SV streams published by two redundant MU or between GOOSE streams published by two redundant SCU.
The associated configuration used by Rte is based on the DO “InRef”. This DO allows to point to different IEC 61850 addresses and also to manage the test streams. The dynamic change to another SV or GOOSE stream is based on updating the Data Attributes (DA) “setSrcCB” and “setSrcRef”.

1. It seems required to have the capability of changing simultaneously the DA setSrcRef / setSrcCB of an InRef DO.
If not, there is a risk that the application use the wrong input signal while setSrcRef has changed and setSrcCB has not, for instance.

2. It seems required to have the capability of changing simultaneously the DA setSrcRef / setSrcCB of multiple InRef DO of a same LD.
If not, there is a risk that the application use for instance an input signal on SAMU A, and other inputs signal from SAMU B, which is discrepant from a system perspective.


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Multiplexer.PNG View Multiplexer.PNG 15.9 KB Vladan Cvejic, 06/07/2022 09:23 AM

Proposal descriptions

Referring to TISSUE: https://iec61850.tissue-db.com/tissue/1727 (Similar problem that has to be resolved in future)
Suggestion is to subscribe to all streams and to have multiplexer behind to swap between the streams.
How the multiplexer will be resolved?
Proposal is that there should be DataObject (or other) that will be associated to Multiplexer mechanism.

ExtRefs are coming from different IEDs. ExtRef/InRef are in 1:1 relation.
Proposal of this group is to start with multiplexer solution in 7-1 (Ed 3) and to extend to other Parts.


Related issues

Copied from IEC 61850 User Feedback Task Force - Improvement #5372: Simultaneous change of InRef.setSrcRef and InRef.setSrcCB for dynamic commutationResolved05/31/2022

Actions
Copied to 61850-7-5 and 61850-7-500 - IEC61850-7-5 #6725: Simultaneous change of InRef.setSrcRef and InRef.setSrcCB for dynamic commutationIn ProgressMaud Merley05/31/2022

Actions
#1

Updated by Vladan Cvejic almost 2 years ago

  • Copied from Improvement #5372: Simultaneous change of InRef.setSrcRef and InRef.setSrcCB for dynamic commutation added
#2

Updated by Vladan Cvejic about 1 year ago

  • Tracker changed from WG10FutureWork to WG10 Future Work
  • Needs More Information set to No
  • Target edition set to Edition 3
  • Assigned TF 61850-7-1 added
#3

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 9 months ago

  • Target edition changed from Edition 3 to Not assigned
#4

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 5 months ago

  • Target edition changed from Not assigned to Next
#5

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 5 months ago

  • Standard(s) changed from IEC 61850-7-1 to IEC 61850-7-1, TR IEC 61850-10-3
  • Assigned TF 61850-10-3 (Functional Testing) added

To be investigated in TF 10-3

#6

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 5 months ago

  • Standard(s) changed from IEC 61850-7-1, TR IEC 61850-10-3 to TR IEC 61850-90-20, TR IEC 61850-10-3
  • Assigned TF 61850-90-20 added
  • Assigned TF deleted (61850-7-1)
#7

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 5 months ago

  • Standard(s) changed from TR IEC 61850-90-20, TR IEC 61850-10-3 to TR IEC 61850-10-3, TR IEC 61850-90-20

To be addressed also by new TF for topology.

#8

Updated by Vladan Cvejic 4 months ago

  • Copied to IEC61850-7-5 #6725: Simultaneous change of InRef.setSrcRef and InRef.setSrcCB for dynamic commutation added

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